How to Manage Shower Drainage & Leak Prevention – Schluter Systems
When we talk with clients about a bathroom remodel typically the #1 question we hear is “Will my bathroom leak in 5-10 years after the remodel?” Bob spoke with Phil Woodruff of Schluter Systems at the 2014 NARI Home Show in Cleveland, Ohio about the latest and greatest shower and bath drainage and leak prevention innovations.
Bob: We’re here at the 2014 NARI Home Improvement Show at the IX Center.
Many people have come in today talking about their bathrooms,
remodeling their bathrooms, and how they can keep it from leaking
again. Hi everybody. Bob Gallese, with One Man and a Hammer and
OneManAndAHammer.com. I know we’ve talked many times before about how
to waterproof a bathroom. Today, we have Phil Woodruff, of Schluter
Systems, which is the system that One Man and a Hammer uses to
waterproof their bathrooms. Phil, thank you for coming on today with
Phil: Thank you for having us here.
Bob: What’s the latest and greatest? What’s out there? What’s going on
with Schluter? I know we use the KERDI mat, which is the wall water
proofing system. I know they have the great drains. Is there any
improvements in KERDI, or that product is pretty good, don’t need any
Phil: We don’t need any improvement, but what we’re seeing out is a trend
is the barrier-free bath or the curbless shower and the integration of
the line drain. The line drain is definitely something that we’ve
gotten into in the last year.; comes in a variety of sizes, 3
different grade options.
Bob: Line drains. What is a line drain, exactly?
Phil: A lineal drain versus a point drain, so the old KERDI drain as we
know it, you use, is a drain that goes in the middle of the floor. We
slope the floor to it, and why we’re sloping, we’re on a compound
angle; therefore, we need a smaller format tile. What we’ve done is
we’ve come up with a lineal drain, or sometimes maybe a trough drain,
and you’ll see here, this one’s a 32-inch. These start at 20 inches;
they move up in increments of 4 all the way to 72. What that’s going
to do is it’s going to allow you guys to instead of putting a drain in
the center, you can place that drain up against the wall or at the
front of the shower.
Bob: As opposed to having a shower floor that slopes from 4 ways . . .
Phil: Your slope . . .
Bob: . . . this sloping one way.
Phil: Or two ways.
Bob: Or two ways, right.
Phil: Which now gives you the ability to sell the customer on the floor
tile that’s large format that’s so popular, the 12×24, 24×24 that’s on
the wall and the floor. We’ve never been able to put that in the
bathroom floor because of that compound angle. Now because of these
single slopes, we can integrate it or carry the bathroom floor right
through into the shower.
Bob: That’s good stuff and that’s great news, because now, that opens up
the tile selections. You don’t have to have the little 2×2 tiles or
little 3×3 tiles, which of course, involves more grout in your shower.
I know a lot of people still get hung up on the grout, so that
eliminates the need to have all those little tiles and all that grout.
Real good stuff. The drains obviously still have the standard round
drain, but we’re going to get into that on another vlog. Phil, I
appreciate your time today.
Everybody, make sure you join me from 8:00 to 9:00 on Saturday morning
on the Home Toolbox Show on AM 1330. See you then.